Madonna vs. Cher
I can’t believe we’re even having this discussion, but Bro, Mags and I are having a serious debate about Madonna and Cher.
Bro: I don’t know. Who’s more trashy, Madonna or Cher?
Me: (shocked) You’ve got to be kidding me. MADONNA is not trashy.
Mags: I don’t know. I think they are both pretty trashy. Madonna. Cher. There’s really no difference.
Me: I can’t believe you guys think Madonna is trashy. MADONNA!!
Bro: Madonna’s new CD is good. BUT, I’m sticking with my original position. Not only is she trashy, she’s tacky. Remember when she stood outside naked for her sex book?
Mags: Yeah, and Cher always has her ass hanging out.
Me: Madonna is a musical genius. That woman has reinvented herself again and again and again …
Bro: So has Cher. At her last concert, Cher dressed up as someone from the Middle East and rode in on an elephant.
Me: Madonna would never do that.
Bro: Puh-lease. Yes she would. Give her a few years.
Mags: Madonna’s just newer. That’s all. She’s the Cher of our generation.
Me: Cher is like hard rock trashy. Did you see Mask? She’s just like that character.
Bro: That was just a movie. And, did you see Moonstruck? At least Cher has won an Oscar. Madonna’s never won an Oscar. Actually, Madonna was voted the worst actress of the century. I’m serious. She was.
Me: Moonstruck sucked. Desperately Seeking Susan is a more classy movie.
Bro: I can’t believe you just let those words come out of your mouth.
Mags: In that movie, doesn’t Madonna play a woman who’s like … almost a hooker?
The discussion continues. Later, I Google “Madonna vs. Cher” and a bunch of other things to see if I can find a site that compares the two divas. Guess what I find? Apparently, our lovely neighbors to the north, the Canadians, have a site on which you can vote for Madonna and Cher. Basically, the question is something like: Which of the two do you think will leave their mark on the music scene even after they’re long dead and gone? At the moment, Cher is ahead so I strongly encourage Madonna-lovers to vote.
December 7th, 2005 at 10:13 am
They are both iconoclast divas to us here in the gay community along with the Divine Miss Midler. I love them all!
December 7th, 2005 at 2:09 pm
Maybe one day I, too, can be an iconoclast diva in the gay community!! … My friend Jerome swears that I already am in certain circles. :)
December 7th, 2005 at 4:03 pm
I think they are both pretty trashy, if you define trashy as being almost naked most of the time. I think Madonna is the best at self-promotion though. And they both definitely live by their own rules.
December 7th, 2005 at 4:19 pm
Mags is right: Madonna is the Cher of our generation.
Cher is, well, kind of over for most people. II think our lovely gay friends and our parents are the majority of her fan base.
While Madonna has reinvented herself (ad nausium), I define myself as an early Madonna fan. I don’t like her current music or her fake Brit accent. Perhaps some might have said Madonna was trashy back in the day with the sex book and all, but I prefered her when she was a little more over the top.
December 7th, 2005 at 4:21 pm
Let’s put it this way. If a nuclear holocaust ever destroyed the world, the only creatures left would be the cockroaches – and Cher. And maybe Joan Rivers.
Madonna has no chance.
December 7th, 2005 at 5:09 pm
I would argue that Keith Richards would be alive with the cockroaches long after either Cher or Madonna.
December 7th, 2005 at 5:38 pm
I would say, that while Madge had longevity, she doesn’t necessarily have the pipes and though Madge has shock value- she doesn’t necessarily have the like-ability factor. Madge can reinvent herself a million times to a public that begs for more, but she lacks vulnerability. Cher takes it hands down.
PS: BOB MACKIE IS A GENIUS.
December 7th, 2005 at 5:56 pm
Madonna commits the same crime that bad dates commit–she tries too hard…way too hard. Sorry, Stols. But we’re still simpatico on lots o’ things.
December 7th, 2005 at 10:49 pm
goldennib: You’re right, Madonna *DOES* live by her own rules. How could anyone not love her for that?
MamaChristy: I’ll have you know that Mags reads my blog [although she never comments] and she was quite pleased that you agreed with her. :)
Jay: Ooooh, Joan Rivers. She’ll be around forever too!!
Mitch: Keith Richards. Man, that guy looks like he’s ALREADY dead.
Julia: I can’t believe everyone is voting for Cher!!!! What’s going on?!?! (And, yes, Bob Mackie is something *special*)
Andy: “But we’re still simpatico on lots o’ things. Whew!! Sweetie, I have to admit that I started to worry when you said that you didn’t like Madonna. :)
December 8th, 2005 at 6:06 am
can’t. stand. madonna.
i mean, the music is sort of okay, but i can’t bear the simpering-english-lady-horseriding-writing-kiddy-books-being-all-mystical thing, which immediately reverts to stick-your-hand-down-your-knickers-the-press-is-at-your-concert behaviour at the drop of a camera flash.
i understand the concept of a “performance” but she tries too hard to convince us that she is both of those people and it just doesn’t wash, for me at least.
cher rocks. badly, a bit like your mum at a bon jovi concert, but she rocks nonetheless.
December 8th, 2005 at 7:08 am
Not you, too?!?! I’m honestly shocked by the sheer number of you who don’t like Madonna. :(
Hmmm … It’s worth mentioning that even *I* don’t like the I’m-not-an-American-anymore-pseudo-Brit act that she’s pulling these days.
December 8th, 2005 at 3:58 pm
Dude. Moonstruck was a GREAT movie. Desperately Seeking Susan sucked ass. It’s not that I hate Madonna, it’s just that every cinematic thing she touches turns to pure and utter shit. That’s all.
December 9th, 2005 at 12:29 am
I think there was a typo in your email. *Moonstruck* sucked ass.
*Desperately Seeking Susan* was a GREAT movie. ;)
October 6th, 2008 at 8:58 pm
I think Madonna’s better than Cher.
She’s basically topped her in every category.