Are Short Men Worth Dating?

Total randomness, I know, but, I just stumbled across Maxim magazine’s list of the 25 greatest short dudes of all time in an article cleverly titled “Living Large.” I’ve dated black men, white dudes, Latinos, guys from Europe, etc. etc. But, I’ve never dated anyone shorter than I am. Ever. Don’t get me wrong. I’m not a short people hater. It’s just — all things being equal — I prefer taller men because I’m not very big. Long, strong arms to hug me & skyscraper legs that wrap around my body in bed? Yes, give me more. The closer to 6′ or higher, the better. I guess I’m a single little brown chick looking for a progressive, childfree, single, multi-lingual, attractive, muscular, wickedly smart, foreign dude … who’s also nearly 6′ tall or higher. And, he can’t be an atheist. [Funky Brown Chick laces her fingers together, cracks her knuckles and backs away from her laptop while whistling & mumbling, "No wonder I'm single."] Carry on.

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joeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy June 7, 2009 at 11:10 am

ABX trust me, If you have no confadence in your self women can see that. ABX do me a favor, believe and know your all that, keep your head high, and don’t let anyone break your confidence. Feel good no matter what, and this way of thinking will show, confidence is attractive in a man. ABX anything else is just poison to the brain, feel good about your self be confadent and It wiil show, trust me see all these midget actors with women falling on them like mini me. I like that guys attitude and It shines through him, people/women see that, feal me ABX. You have to change your way of thinking, if your confident and have a good attitude about your self and life people/women will look at you and say hey I like that guys angle no matter how tall you are. To get a woman speak to her confident, direct, don’t bit your tonge at all, be yourself, know your all that, work with the hand you was delt by god/life and you will see a change. Ive talked to women that didn’t really like shot guys period,but they likied me cause of my attitude, my angle. I dont take bullshit and know what Im worth, im also a good man ,this is my angle, and I feel good about myself hands down, and it shows. People/women can see that in me, I have and almost every on has felt like you ABX ,but you know what every one has a down fall. You have to change your way of thinking, and know that there arent many humans occupying the univers, we could easily be extint.So you should know that your here for a reason ,and your one of the few special chosen ones to be alive on this earth, that real, and thats the truth, act like it. Change your thinking know your special know any womans lucky to have you and be I say agian be positve with your head up willing to help and talk directly to these women, with out bitting your tounge, with confidence, and youll see a change at how women see you, A woman wants a confidend man 1st and foremost believe that, everything else will fall into place, ABX it will be ok trust . 

joeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy June 7, 2009 at 11:18 am

ABX I get hundreds/thousands of womens number with what I told you. My last apt, when I moved I threw about  2000 to 3000 womens numbers away cuase I just never called. them women are pretty easy to get, use what I showed you and you’ll see what Im talking about, tell me how it goes for you OK. peace brotha  godbless.

Rob Hunt June 9, 2009 at 9:02 pm

I think it might be a “status” thing between men themselves – I’ve witnessed taller guys being treated with respect from the off, be it on the sports field, induction days at university, or the pecking orders in the workplace (esp. amongst younger men making their way up). As a once 5ft8 (130lbs) man that looked painfully young in his 20s I’ve witnessed how cruel it can be when people chalk you off for not being big or having the “heft”. On the other side of the coin – that’s these men that are short, I’ve witnessed them being treated like dirt without the perpetrator(s) knowing them personally; bullied, singled-out, ignored, mocked…. you name it, especially if they aren’t “built”. I think it’s the somewhat arrogant notion that it’s “survival of the strongest” and they’re just ‘playing natures part’, that they’re playing God and it makes them feel good to have a victim. People just assume short is weak and tall is strong. The other prejudice is that if your a short guy that’s friendly and nice, people assume that your gay or sneaky, or “sucking up”, the same gay assumptions spread if your quiet and timid (though that’s also assumed either weak, scared or retarded), you act arrogant and assertive as the short man and you’ve got a chip on your shoulder over your lack of height i.e. Small Mans Syndrome, yet the tall silent guy is the “strong silent type” or mysterious. A short man who takes care of his body and builds muscle is suddenly “trying to compensate for lack of…”. These are just a few examples of the negative assumptions the short man is faced with.

So then, subconsciously, people are generally a lot friendlier, less assuming of badness and more welcoming towards tall men in general, this must reap rewards for them to attain higher social status more easily. Women strive for high status males so their kids pass on the trait, obviously it’s advantageous to choose a taller man.

The other thing is does an average height exist?!! This really gets to me as a 5ft9.25 man (I was 5ft8 until 23,24) who’s been called short numerous times (even by women that are 5ft4′ish!!). I seem to be on the chalk line when really I shouldn’t feel that way, yet it’s an example of modern times. Some people are so narrow-minded that the gulf between tall and short has been cut down to one figure, which is usually 5ft10; anything above is tall, anything below: small. From the statistics regular height for men ranges from 5ft8 – 5ft11, yet there’s plenty of folk that say 5ft9 is small or a poor height, or in many single females cases they have an auto cut-off of 5ft10 when it comes to dating personals.

My take is, that, by default, tallness means greater social status for men and it’s pretty hard-wired into both genders and It’s not going to change anytime soon. You have to be a lot smarter, intense and interesting as the short or average-height man, otherwise the average-brained…even dullard tall guy will get the nod a head of you without a shadow of a doubt.

Pete June 11, 2009 at 6:32 pm

I think that it’s time for short people and in particular short men to realize that what people do to them is just prejudice and discrimination pure and simple.  There is no group that would tolerate a debasing song written about them.  Can you imagine a song called that debases racial or ethnic groups in the same way that Randy Newman’s song “Short People” degrades the short?  It doesn’t even have to be based on race.  It could be any group under the sun, racial, ethnic, religious, creed, color, sex, sexual orientation — anything.  Questioning someone’s competency or intelligence based on any of the above characteristics is viewed as discrimination and there are laws preventing discrimination against all of the above groups with the sole exception of the short-of-stature.  I mean can you imagine questioning someone’s competency in the workplace because of their race — and saying it outloud?!  Instant termination from job.  When the same behavior is directed at a short person – and in particular short men — it’s viewed as a big joke.  One study found that the discrimination in the workplace for short people is greater than racial or sexual discrimination.  In Ralph Keye’s book ‘The Height of Your Life’,  Keyes reported that the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Training Manual actively and provacatively PROFILED SHORT MEN AS ALWAYS CAUSING THE TROUBLE.  The same training manual even COMPARED SHORT MEN TO HITLER AND STALIN.  There is no doubt that no group in the world would tolerate such a thing.  I think that short people and especially short men should start taking the example of every other group on earth who’s been a victim class and attempt to fight the problem collectively.  I found a great website for this at http://www.supportfortheshort.org. 

Short men should stop looking at this as an individual problem that they can never solve.  What short men endure is not something that they should endure.  Think about it; these people who perpetrate the discrimination don’t have to endure anything.  It’s really like anything else I believe.  Those who have no power get no justice.  Short people will not get justice until they achieve a little power, and they will not get any power until/if they begin to view their problem collectively instead of individually.

joeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy June 13, 2009 at 10:50 am

Pete you gotta be kidding me

lamesabassman...... June 14, 2009 at 9:32 am

and ….. in the end…. short people will rule the world…. until the revolt of the roaches….

lamesabassman…… then… guess who rules….

Pete June 14, 2009 at 10:55 pm

When the rats meet a little intelligence they all run and hide.  Eh?

lamesabassman...... June 15, 2009 at 12:12 am

“same as it ever was…”

lamesabassman…… ” and all remains the same….. “

joeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy June 15, 2009 at 2:04 am

what intelligence Pete?   

Pete June 15, 2009 at 9:44 pm

Certainly not yours.  JOH EEEEE

joeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy June 16, 2009 at 12:46 am

Pete I gave real advice, and I only comment to real shit! Your whole battle of the short people to achieve respect and power is utterly rediculous. Read what I said you can use that in every day life, and hey Im not the one that claimed to be so ”Eh?” Intelligent. What I said has not only worked for me but many others, what you typed in sounds utterly rediculous, Pete Mr “Eh?” inteligent .If you where so “Eh?” Intelligent, you would know these men on here arent talking about getting raises or respect or power in the work place, their talking about getting women  to be attracted to them gianning thier respect and being with them, getting  the women to like and be attracted to them, who ever they may be. What ”Eh?’ Intelligent advice are you imposing Pete. Rally together make it a law to respect short people and give them power, and oh yeah! The law says “women have to like and be attracted us too” man Pete “Shut the fuck up” You don’t even know what flavor the coolaid is and you dipp’n in it. No law or rally in the world is gonna make women like short men, more especially a short mens rally for power  if anything this will turn women off/make them laugh.  Pete please shut the fuck up about intelligence unless you know what the fuck your talking about. Pete I study Psychology, and Obviuosly have gotten way more women than you with your short mens rally for power to the top, you sound like a damm moron, the things you said will never get a woman. Come again!

Matt June 16, 2009 at 10:54 am

Joey wrote:

“Your whole battle of the short people to achieve respect and power is utterly rediculous.”

“these men on here arent talking about getting raises or respect or power in the work place, their talking about getting women  to be attracted to them gianning thier respect and being with them, getting  the women to like and be attracted to them”

Hey Joey-

Have you ever wondered why women have so little respect for short men in the first place? Could it be that they are being conditioned by society to believe short men are inferior?

Short men are almost always portrayed by the media as losers. Short men are much less able to achieve respected positions of wealth or leadership because of the discrimination they face. Female celebrities like Sophie Dahl, Carla Bruni and Nicole Kidman are fiercely criticized for dating short men. How could all this NOT affect women’s perception of short men?

The real solution isn’t to accept being discriminated against by society, while “tricking” a few women into liking us, but to attack the underlying premise that short men are inferior- whether it is in the workplace, the media, the political arena, or the dating world.

joeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy June 16, 2009 at 4:08 pm

Hey matt your attitude is inferior ,I know dozens of short men  with very high status. Sounds to me like your feeling sorry for yourself Matt. As long as short men like you think inferiorm, you’ll always be inferior. I know Im not inferior, and Matt there’s no trick about conficence in a man and feeling good you cant trick or fake that, Matt and   oh if a short mans confiden its a trick to get women. Matt you sound like a dam fool, what the fuck are you talking about, so if a tall mans confidend in himself, then I guess he’s not considered to be tricking women, only confident short guys. What the fuck are you talking about Stalion, ether you have confidence or you dont no trick about it fucking jackass  Matt.   I know plenty of short men who dont feel sorry for themselves and moved up in the world to high positions Matt, even little people. You must have absolutly no Idea of how to even deal with people let alone get a woman in the real world it seem. It all starts from the inside out not the outside in, you should feel good about yourself no matter what, workplace or media or political arena is saying or doing. I know I feel good about my self with a very high confidence no trick about it MATT .I may be short butt every one likes me no trick to that,  and for your information   the women wanted me there was no trick about that if you know anything about psychology Matty boy.    

James June 16, 2009 at 4:21 pm

Well said Matt.  Even those women who do not have a negative perceptions of short men, tend to bow down to peer pressure and not date short men, unfortionately acting just like teenagers cow towing to peer pressure. But the main problem for short males is discrimination in the work place. People have been getting away with it for years.

Pete June 16, 2009 at 4:40 pm

To joeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy,

It’s always the people who are the idiots who name-call.  You didn’t respond to one thing I wrote.  You twisted what I wrote to suit your own purpose.  I rather not engage in a personal attack but just viewing your spelling tells me you have a 4th grade reading level – if that.  You claim to study psychology buy you can’t even spell and your grammar is abominable.  Here are a few examples – ” rediculous”, “inteligent”, “arent”, “gianning thier respect”, “more especially”. 

Where did I write that there should be a law for “people to respect short people and give them power”?  I believe that short people should have the same rights that other groups do.  If that were to occur through legislation then the negative attitudes of women might change, even though there probably will never be a law ‘requiring’ women to date men their height or shorter. 

Joeyyyyyyyyyyyy further states:

“No law or rally in the world is gonna make women like short men, more especially a short mens rally for power  if anything this will turn women off/make them laugh.”

Many women are already turned-off to short men.  Many already laugh at short men.  We’re already treated as a joke by some.  We have nothing to lose.  Some of the posts on this board prove that.  I think every short man knows that at one level or another. The self-condeming attitude of some of the short men on this group and others contributes to this and seeming “rugged individualists” like yourself make it worse.  I hate to say it, but it’s short men like you (if you are actually short) that keep the rest of us in our place with your attitude.  You seem to approach short men’s issues with women from an individualistic stance.  As short people are viewed as other groups are viewed and they gain rights the attitudes of others will change.  Short men and short people will no longer be targets of the hostility of others.  You claim to be short but you get upset when another short man wants rights for short people.  You’re the equivalent of a Black “Uncle Tom”.  You betray other short people with your attitude.  Furthermore, go take an English course.

Pete June 16, 2009 at 4:51 pm

Joeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy writes:

“Hey matt your attitude is inferior ,I know dozens of short men  with very high status. Sounds to me like your feeling sorry for yourself Matt. As long as short men like you think inferiorm, you’ll always be inferior. I know Im not inferior, and Matt there’s no trick about conficence in a man and feeling good you cant trick or fake that, Matt and   oh if a short mans confiden its a trick to get women. Matt you sound like a dam fool, what the fuck are you talking about, so if a tall mans confidend in himself, then I guess he’s not considered to be tricking women, only confident short guys. What the fuck are you talking about Stalion, ether you have confidence or you dont no trick about it fucking jackass  Matt.   I know plenty of short men who dont feel sorry for themselves and moved up in the world to high positions Matt, even little people. You must have absolutly no Idea of how to even deal with people let alone get a woman in the real world it seem. It all starts from the inside out not the outside in, you should feel good about yourself no matter what, workplace or media or political arena is saying or doing. I know I feel good about my self with a very high confidence no trick about it MATT .I may be short butt every one likes me no trick to that,  and for your information   the women wanted me there was no trick about that if you know anything about psychology Matty boy.”

Yeah.  I can see the kind of ‘women’ you might attract.  I’ll bet they just love inteligent psychologists like you.  Don’t they?

takemeon June 17, 2009 at 12:44 pm

oh god, i just saw this the origanl posters’ face

MY god

lol — remove the discriminatory post and we shall call it quits.

dkzone June 17, 2009 at 5:00 pm

Troll…thy name is takemeon

oh wait….is there such a thing as a short troll?

Twanna A. Hines | FUNKYBROWNCHICK.com June 18, 2009 at 6:21 am

Oh my! :) Good call, dkzone. Troll indeed.

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