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veep veep April 20, 2009 at 8:09 am

so love this.
but so wish it didnt have to be written.

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A April 20, 2009 at 8:17 am

Agree…sad that it needs to be said, especially the last point.

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sid April 20, 2009 at 8:24 am

OMG. Can we get the ad council to film this as a PSA?

Things I've heard and hated: “I've never been with a black woman before!” And now you never will.

“Oh, so you're a sophisticated sista!” From a guy responding to my OKC profile, upon learning I hold an M.S. and have traveled as extensively as he has. He never got a response.

“I really just think culturally we're too different.” From a Guyanese Indian guy who I dated just fine for a while between grad and undergrad, but who then proceeded to propose marriage weeks after meeting an Indian woman. An Indian woman from a totally different country, different region of India, different religion, and for whom he actually had to learn a new language. But *we* were too different. See your point on being truthful.

But dude, people have rapped for you? I'm feeling a little bit left out, here. Dang.

I would like to add, also: Do not grab your potential date's hair without asking. (Or ask off the bat if her hair is fake. It is akin to saying “Hey, nice tits. They real?”) If I had a dollar for every time some random did that, I'd be rich as Croesus.

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The Jaded NYer April 20, 2009 at 8:24 am

The overcompensation one really annoys me.

“Dear White Men: you don't have to try and sway me by saying you love Biggie or Jay Z and that Bed-Stuy is one of your favorite 'hoods just because I'm from there. It's okay if Skokie, Ill. and Hootie and the Blowfish are more your speed.”

I hate a poseur more than anything! Just be yourself, and then the female can decide if she wants to be with you or not.

And PS- assuming I like rap and hip hop? Just rude! I mean, I do, but STILL… rude! lol

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pink_thursday April 20, 2009 at 8:42 am

Don't assume you know what I like and dislike b/c you've been with black women before and you've got us figured out!

Great post FBC!

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Wonderlove April 20, 2009 at 9:09 am

From one sista to another: Great post, FBC!!!

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chanel April 20, 2009 at 9:21 am

great post… i've been on a date with two white men. one wanted to prove how down he was the whole night. after a few days and a brief arguement about the n-word we decided to be friends. the other was a double date and he seemed to not have anything to talk about (he's the one who asked me out by the way) I don't know if he was bored lol or just nervous to be on a date with black girl.

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DrewMaster April 20, 2009 at 9:22 am

you know who,

Why does Relationship matters what race you are? really? if you were to be blinded at birth,YOU wouldn't know any difference!

I still remember Tamica P. who died in BJHS back in Oct 2, 1987

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Lexi Black April 20, 2009 at 10:46 am

I've only dated one white guy and with three swings, he struck out with me!

First he gave me the line that he had never been with a black woman. (Strike One) He slipped and accidentally told me the truth and I found out that he had so he lied. (Strike Two) Then I found out he was married. (Strike Three, You're Out!!)

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Baba Doodlius April 20, 2009 at 11:01 am

This post could have been simply titled “How to date a woman”. Wait, you mean women with dark skin are still WOMEN?!? Wow, whoda thunk it.

I'd love to have heard you rapping suitor, though. Word up fer shizzle.

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neo25nyc April 20, 2009 at 11:36 am

I find it so funny when guys feel the need to ask about different a different race. I usually tell them if they have to ask they shouldn't bother haha. I've dated a lot of different races, but mostly white guys and I've rarely had issues with…misunderstandings…However, the men I've dated I've met in places I worked, went to school, went out at night, through friends. If you're interested in someone because they're attractive and into the same things as you than there's no problem dating them. If you're after them just because you're hunting for a skin color, well like I said before…don't bother :-)

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heartsandflowers April 20, 2009 at 12:03 pm

I especially liked the one about knowing the difference between dating and trying to sex a woman. That should be a rule for ALL men but we know it's up to us to discern who's sincere and who's sincerely a throwaway guy.

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berriblk April 20, 2009 at 1:33 pm

hehe, sorry to put you out there… thanks!

Ugh, please dont walk up to me and all of a sudden have a 'twang' in your voice and say “wassup gurl”… you dont do that to everyone else…and I dont speak that way either.

Be yourself.

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lamesabassman April 21, 2009 at 12:45 am

so….. you winter in Long Beach….. eh, Mr. D…..

lamesabassman…… word to the feather….

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lamesabassman April 21, 2009 at 12:54 am

gee…. who'da thunk it…… did'nt know one needed a primer on the subject….
Bklyn has been cool like that….. for days…. some parts of Queens….. and The Bronx…… mellow…. just be yourself and chill….. and no wise cracks….
either the sistahs will dig you….. or you'll sleep with the fishes…. no half steppin'
be real and you might see home plate from the outfield…..

lamesabassman….. and bring flowers…. real ones,guys….

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kmh20s April 21, 2009 at 5:52 am

to all the white men i've dated.

please do not assume that since i'm a black woman i HAVE to be in charge! i like manly men (in all shades!).

please do not be surprised that i don't walk around calling everything racists and hating “the man”.

please don't think that it's your job to “save me”. and to one particular white man in general “when i asked that capers be left out of my pasta, it wasn't because i'd never tried capers, it's because i HAVE tried capers and i don't like them. i've had the same jar of capers in my fridge since 2005!”

please don't introduce me to your friends/family if you know they will disapprove. not unless we're serious, at which point you've got a decision to make. dating me is not your chance to rebel against your family or make a social statement.

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lamesabassman April 21, 2009 at 8:49 am

or ….. not to be treated like a science project

lamesabassman……. or a flavor of the week…..

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Baba Doodlius April 21, 2009 at 9:52 am

Uh, well, I've *been* to Long Beach once. I was getting off a container ship.

One other thing: I'd really like to know, once and for all, just what in the fucking hell “word up” means. (I don't even care anymore about that whole “shizzle” thing, though.)

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Elle April 21, 2009 at 2:46 pm

Well I learn something new everyday…raceplay?!

And craigslist is usually Anything but Black. O.o

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Mz. Emerald April 21, 2009 at 7:19 pm

Twanna, thank you so much for this blog! Might I add this one, don’t automatically start talking about getting under the sheets, and how nice our skin complexions would look on top of each other (I got those exact words from a guy on Match.com). In fact, don’t approach Black women as an experiment for yourself or something you can check off from your “100 Top Things to do Before I Die list”.

Is it wishful thinking that all women should be approached in this manner, no matter what their race is? Just be respectful, and everything will work out well.

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letinstar April 21, 2009 at 9:33 pm

great article..i have nothing else to add….

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Amiyrah April 21, 2009 at 11:21 pm

That was well worth the wait. Thanks for finally putting it up. Now I have something to refer my white guy friends to, although I KNOW what they’re intentions are, and it has lots to do with getting brown skin women in the sack. Men and their sex….

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lamesabassman...... April 21, 2009 at 11:51 pm

well, Mr.D ….. on that topic…. am lost for words….. guess it means” come correct” or we cant dance….. gee,Mr.D, I’m from Bklyn and never knew….there
can be just so many ways you can put a swerve on a word… then it morphs to
another level ’til we kinda Twitter what Man has carefully built and molded since
he belched his first word…… the fine art of Talking……

lamesabassman……. word to the feather…..

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Amazedatlife..... April 27, 2009 at 2:01 am

Very well written article! Wow… I must admit that I am completely amazed that this article had to be written. Being a white male I would assume that treating a woman like a woman, with respect, would be common sense for a date with any woman regardless of her race. I have personally had long term relationships with women of many races and one thing holds true a woman is a woman, treat her with dignity, respect, honesty, and politeness.

The woman who holds my heart happens to be black, I didn’t fall in love with her because of the color of her skin, I fell in love with her heart, her soul and the way she lights up my heart.

Come on guys lets use our heads here…. treat the ladies right! Oh and have some damn manners…… didn’t your Mother’s teach you to hold the door, take the check (unless its her treat), help her with her coat, hold the umbrella, say please and thank you! Quit acting like a bunch of boys and act like men!

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Robert May 1, 2009 at 3:00 pm

I am always interested in learning how others have dealt with this issue. I currently have a beautiful black girlfriend. It was love at first site for both and it was not my first experience with dating a black female but it was her first at dating a white male. I don’t think she was really ready for it but as we learned about each other it just happened. Open and honest communication, question and answer, grow and bond. Like two people do regardless of other factors, like skin or age. It’s been 1 n 1/2 years and we still are moving forward. So I guess my advice is be your self, try and discover the differences and those things that are the same, and with this you will have much to talk and grow with. Black women and White men are the same as any other couple they want love, kindness and a bond of honesty n commitment. Funny story is early on in our relationship the topic of slavery came up and after about an hour of taking my girlfriend said “I would have never thought I would ever in my life discuss this issue with a white guy, let alone a white guy who was my boyfriend.” We have come along way America. She tells me most everyday that the best of her life was the day we first met. I must agree!

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Kanika May 13, 2009 at 9:14 am

Another tip- Black people from the suburbs are not “whiter” than you are…. =[

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wayne December 5, 2009 at 7:13 am

I have dated only black women for many years and have found out that love has no color.   My first true to whom I was to marry was my soulmate and we just loved to be together.  So everyone, if u do not want to be together for love and friendship, just do not date for any other reason!!  White, Black..are we not just men and women!!

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gingerj February 28, 2010 at 12:01 pm

This is so stupid for anyone i mean to be honest why does it matter what color, race, religious background you follow as for me i dont care though it brings up a question for me why is it being a red head and white seem like and makes women of any color believe that i find them inferior or just objects becuase that is a lie from society and i hate being looked at and having people go “he is just an asshole” when i am not i am very caring, thoughtful, loving, and i respect women and treat as a tresure of this earth they are more precious the diamonds and i cant understand why its hard for women to believe of me when i say this seeing as ive never tried or plan on just having a woman in bed thats not how i am i want a real relationship were the man and woman both support each others decisions and ideals and build trust im not a man that would boss my girlfriend or wife around its not right. you women of this world have voices and opions that mean just as much as men i listen to them and respect them as they should be

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Joey Brenner March 21, 2010 at 10:44 pm
Afua Boahene August 14, 2010 at 3:54 pm

Twanna–Thanks for this article. I think there are so many misconceptions that people have of what it is like to date a black woman or any other woman of color.  Yes, we’re all individuals but too often people assume certain things about women of a certain race. It always annoys me when people ask me would I ever date someone who is white. Of course my answer is YES but why is is that they automatically assume  that wouldn’t. The better question might be would a white guy consider dating me. I think we are starting to see more evidence that they would which is an encouraging sign for black women. Hopefully, your post will give white men and black women more liberty to approach each other in the dating game. Again, thanks for sharing your thoughts. Currently, I am blogging about women of color, relationships, dating, love and romance and I would love to get your feedback. Could you please check out my blog site at http://smelodydiva.wordpress.com. I look forward to hearing from you.–Afua

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whiteguywithblackGF August 22, 2010 at 1:53 pm

lol, why would anyone need a guide to date a specific race hahah, just supports the idea of races being certain ways i.e racism.  just treat them like any other girl you wish to date because thats what they are. im white, my GF is a beautiful dark brown ebony goddess and im going to marry her and we gonna be happy in spite of all the dissaproval from her family

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Ken August 28, 2010 at 1:21 pm

I have dated black women for some time now, and about three years ago I met my soulmate online and we were married a year ago. Our relationship does not have any problems, but our cultural differences are creating an issue. I am from NC and she is from NY. She is in her late forties and I am in early fifties. We truly love each other get along great. We have no problem going anywhere we desire and do not have problems when others stare (that is their problem). Our only problem is she has a large house in the city and I have a moderate house in the subburbs and we can’t get this issue worked out, as of yet. My comment is that I married the WOMAN I love and she just happened to be black. Life is too short not to follow the desires of your heart.

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LoveMyBestFriend September 18, 2010 at 10:55 pm

I am a Black highschool girl and actually more than one of my white guy friends have busted out in a rap to try and impress me but oddly enough, my favorite genre isn’t rap [It was almost comical how shocked he was =)  ] I love every form of music that includes TI, Eminem and Beyonce but I love Three Days Grace, Radiohead, Fall Out Boy, Owl City, David Hayes, My Chemical Romance… .I hate to say that some guys of other races do need a guide (my best friend from Asia is by no means included in that, he’s an absolute sweetheart  <3  ) but a list of don’ts is very necessary for the other ones.  I don’t know if its because of nerves or what but this guy is extremely sweet but maybe it’s just a matter of putting his foot in his mouth.

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just a guy May 24, 2011 at 9:33 am

as a white male who has been married to a beautiful, unique, and strong, black woman for over 28 years;
I would like to suggest that all people foget the hell about race and just see each person as individuals.
Do you have common interests?  Common values?
The fact is that (sadly), that a majority of men in this day and age, choose to be selfish in one way or another.  Now it seems that women are trying to play catch up.
The most powerful person in the world is a black man ( Pres. Obama)
The second most powerful person in the world is a black woman ( Oprah)
Can we just please celebrate that this is the beginning of an opportunity to just see people as people?
What we need is grown men of all races to teach their young men to respect women of all races.
Let the combined wisdom of all cultures and both sexes work together to make this world what it can possibly be.
Sorry for the intrusion.
 

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lynn January 29, 2012 at 9:50 pm

Swm in greenville looking for a nice thin to med built black woman to date for love and companionship! Age open from 31 to 61, prefer nice brest! I’m looking for a good loveing woman!

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